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Cucks gonna cuck

Remember, these people actually think they are virtue-signaling their superior morality:

A North Carolina woman has admitted to committing sex crimes involving a 14-year-old boy who her family was in the process of adopting from the Philippines.

Christy Lynn Jaski, 43, of Wilmington, pleaded guilty Tuesday to three counts of misdemeanor sexual battery. She was sentenced to three years of probation, and as part of her punishment she must also register as a sex offender for 30 years.

Prosecutor Lance Oehrlein says Jaski kissed and groped the Filipino sometime between December 2014 and January 2015. Oehrlein says Jaski also sent messages to a friend in the Philippines admitting she had kissed the child, whom she called ‘her son.’

I suspect the aftermath of the new Churchian enthusiasm for interracial adoption is going to be cataclysmic. One of the key advantages of close family ties, both social and genetic, is that they naturally inhibit incest. You can call an alien your son, your daughter, your brother, or your sister, but that natural inhibition is simply not going to be as strong.

And yes, they’re Churchian cuckservatives: “Devout: Jaski’s husband works for a non-profit devoted to promoting Christianity on college campuses around the country”

Yes, I’m sure this is just the sort of promotion that Christianity needs. Someone needs to explain to these virtue-signaling cretins that importing foreigners to have sex with your wife is neither evangelizing nor sharing the love of Christ.

If I was a college student, the only thing Jaski’s efforts would have is to convince me to worship Loki.

The importance of illumination

Status 451 contemplates the damage caused to organizations and individuals by “value-extractors”:

There’s a pattern most observers of human interaction have noticed, common enough to have earned its own aphorism: “nice guys finish last.” Or, refactored, “bad actors are unusually good at winning.” The phenomenon shows up in business, in politics, in war, in activism, in religion, in parenting, in nearly every collaborative form of human undertaking. If some cooperative effort generates a valuable resource, tangible or intangible, some people will try to subvert the effort in order to divert more of that resource to themselves. Money, admiration, votes, information, regulatory capacity, credibility, influence, authority: all of these and more are vulnerable to capture.

Social engineering, as a field, thus far has focused primarily on hit-and-run tactics: get in, get information (and/or leave a device behind), get out. Adversaries who adaptively capture value from the organizations with which they involve themselves are subtler and more complex. Noticing them, and responding effectively, requires a different set of skills than realizing that’s not the IT guy on the phone or that a particular email is a phish. Most importantly, it requires learning to identify patterns of behavior over time….

In Chapman’s analysis, a subculture’s growth passes through three phases. First come the geeks, the creators and their True Fans whose interest in a niche topic gets a scene moving. Then come the MOPs, short for “Members Of Public,” looking for entertainment, new experiences, and something cool to be part of. Finally, along come the sociopaths, net extractors of value whose long-term aim is to siphon cultural, social, and liquid capital from the social graph of geeks and MOPs. Sociopaths don’t just take, unless they’re not very good at what they do. Many sociopaths contribute just enough to gain a reputation for being prosocial, and keep their more predatory tendencies hidden until they’ve achieved enough social centrality to be difficult to kick out. It’s a survival strategy with a long pedigree; viruses that burn through their host species reservoir too quickly die off.

Corporations, of course, have their own subcultures, and it’s easy to see this pattern in the origin stories of Silicon Valley success stories like Google — and also those of every failed startup that goes under because somebody embezzled and got away with it. Ditto for nonprofits, activist movements, social networking platforms, and really anything that’s focused on growth. Which is a lot of things, these days.

Organizations have a strong incentive to remove net extractors of value. Would-be net extractors of value, then, have an even stronger incentive to keep themselves connected to the social graph. The plasticity of the human brain being what it is, this sometimes leads to some interesting cognitive innovations…. If you’ve ever seen an apparently-thriving group suddenly implode, its members divided over their opinions about one particular person, chances are you’ve seen the end of a sociopath’s run.

This is why sociopaths and predatory narcissists hate and fear people like Mike Cernovich and me. Both being Sigmas and more than a little inclined to march to our own beat, we are not vulnerable to the social pressure that silences most people when they get suspicious about a sociopath. Remember, sociopaths are always on. They are always scanning, trying to get a read on who might be aware that they are not what they pretend to be.

I can’t tell you how many people I’ve caught in the middle of a hyperaware perusal of the group they are in, like a wolf in disguise surveying the sheep around him. They always react physically when caught out, often physically recoiling. Even more damning, they react in one of two ways. They either stay away from me and begin exhibiting signs of extreme personal dislike or they suddenly get very friendly in an attempt to figure out if I’m really onto them or if it was just a coincidence. If I don’t respond in a warm and clueless manner, they soon turn openly hostile.

Most people have some inkling that there is something off about the sociopath, but they simply can’t get their heads around believing what their subconscious is telling them. But if you get that ping from your subconscious radar about someone, don’t ignore it, start watching him closely. Make a habit of it. More often than not, you’ll soon see something that will justify your suspicions that everything is not as it should be.

It’s not about hearts on sleeves

I always enjoy it when cucks go straight to rhetoric. It’s just not a field on which they’re really prepared to play.

(((Popehat))) ‏@Popehat
When I think about it, my clients who are the most modestly, convincingly, and devotedly patriotic are immigrants. Hearts on their sleeves.

Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
And yet, they managed to destroy the nation all the same. It’s not about hearts, but genetics and culture.

(((Popehat))) @Popehat
This guy still exists, I guess.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
Glad to see you’re still out of the funny farm. For the time being, anyhow.

(((Popehat))) ‏@Popehat
This is an adequate insult, I suppose, graded on a curve. Hardly MENSA though.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
I try to keep things at a level the other guy will understand. Communication is so important, after all.

(((Popehat))) ‏@Popehat
Yes, I’ve heard your books are very easy to read.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
That’s why they’re bestsellers.

He just never learns, does he. But to return to the point, no matter how much you may like something,  no matter how strongly you may identify with it, that liking for it doesn’t make you that thing. I really like the Minnesota Vikings. I have since I was a child. But that doesn’t make me a professional football player, much less a member of the Vikings. Seriously, this isn’t that hard.

Do you regard me as an Italian, no different than Garibaldi or Totti or Dante? Or is the dirt of Italy simply less magic than that of America? No, the simple fact is that the state is not the nation. And that is why even the most loyal immigrant can never be a genuine national, even unto the third generation.

Meanwhile, this proud assimilator apparently doesn’t understand his own (((heritage))) well enough to know that Judaism is matrilineal.

(((Schröd’s Täint))) ‏@SmuggieMike
hey pal, I’m a Jew immigrant l who had two kids with a white Christian from the south. #ImGenocidingYou.

Supreme Dark Lord ‏@voxday
And now your kids are no longer Jewish. You’re self-holocausting; you’re almost Hitler. 

Tor doubles down

This is fantastic news for Castalia House and all readers of Blue SF. PNH has been anointed Tom Doherty’s heir and will be running Tor Books in the future.

Patrick Nielsen Hayden has been named Associate Publisher of Tor Books, effective immediately. This award-winning 28-year veteran of Tor has brought numerous prestigious and bestselling authors to the list, including John Scalzi, Cory Doctorow and Charlie Jane Anders, to name a few. His vision has been instrumental in the development of Tor.

Devi Pillai, who led the US division of Orbit to its position as Tor’s fastest-growing competitor, will be joining Tor, also as Associate Publisher. “I’ve watched Devi’s work with admiration for a long time now; her qualifications are outstanding, and she’ll be a great addition to our team,” said Tor Books publisher Tom Doherty. “As we continue our 35-year commitment to adult SF and fantasy, Devi and Patrick will work alongside each other to oversee our numerous editors who work primarily in these twin genres,” he continued.

It’s as if Lincoln promoted Custer to replace McClellan instead of Grant. In 28 years, PNH has brought a mediocrity, a tedious didact, and a no-talent transvestite to Tor. That’s the best he could do? Castalia House will be announcing two better, and better-selling, authors than any of those three in the next six weeks alone.

Tom Doherty should have fired PNH and Irene Gallo last year, but he was too old and infirm to find the courage to do it. Instead, he merely muzzled them while he could. With this promotion, however, PNH will have the opportunity to return to what is literally a bully pulpit.

This promises to be entertaining. When the Tor ship goes down, it should be PNH at the helm.

When white-knighting goes awry

Due to their self-absorption and addiction to self-delusion, Gammas render themselves so completely incompetent that they can’t even white-knight properly. Jim Treacher is a commentator for the Daily Caller who nobly white-knighted for Michelle Fields when she was raped, her arm was ripped off, and she was beaten to death with it by Corey Lewandowski on the direct orders of Donald Trump.

His outrage at this horribly unchivalrous, ungallant behavior was stoked by Mike Cernovich’s infamous endorsement of Miss Field’s rape, mutilation, and murder, so it’s quite natural that he should have been even more inflamed at Spacebunny’s ignoble failure to decry and denounce the pure and unadulterated evil that is Mike Cernovich.

Jim Treacher@jtLOL
If you want to know why I want nothing to do with you: Just look at the shit Cernovich says, every day.

Mike Cernovich @Cernovich
Did Michelle Fields fiancé, who is violent and angry, abuse her? Could be source of those bruises she posted…

This is why we can’t be friends.

Space Bunnyopoulos ‏@Spacebunnyday
We can’t be friends because of something someone else said that has nothing to do with either of us.  Gotcha.

Jim Treacher@jtLOL 
There is no square centimeter of Cernovich’s nutsack that you haven’t licked. Don’t even pretend.

Jim Treacher@jtLOL
He took great delight in hurting my friend Michelle, because his demigod Trump had already hurt her.

Jim Treacher@jtLOL
Fuck all of you fucking shitheads.

Jim Treacher@jtLOL
Have fun eating Cernovich’s shit.

This demonstrates the fundamental way that being emotionally incontinent renders Gammas totally incoherent. In order to virtue-signal and defend the honor of Michelle Fields, Jim Treacher is spewing vulgar nonsense at Spacebunny simply because she would not agree with him.

The reason for this is threefold. First, Gammas usually double down, at least in the short term. Second, Gammas HATE HATE HATE Alphas, mostly because they envy them. Third, and perhaps most important here, is that Gammas place inordinate importance on the approval of women. Nothing burns them more painfully than female disapproval or rejection.

The fact that Treacher perceived Spacebunny as siding with the evil Alpha rather than him, the noble Defender of Women meant that he felt she was disapproving of him, which therefore justified, in his delusional Gamma mind, treating her far worse than Cernovich has ever treated the memory of the late Michelle Fields.

It’s best not to white-knight at all. But if you absolutely have to white-knight for one psychological reason or another, you might want to, at the very least, refrain from cursing at women and accusing them of being adulterous whores. It’s appalling, really, that The Daily Caller permits its commentators to treat women in such a grotesquely sexist way. Do they really endorse this sort of behavior?

UPDATE: Just because it is almost too funny to believe. And to think he wanted to take on Spacebunny, of all women. She’d fillet him and serve him to his cats without even blinking.

Jim Treacher ‏@jtLOL
As I sat there handcuffed, one Metro DC cop mocked me for crying and another one made fun of my weight. Can’t say I blame them for either.

Whom the gods would destroy

They first make mad. John Wright observes that the USA has fully embraced insanity:

The Massachusetts House of Representatives voted 116-36 Wednesday to legally demolish the notion of biological sex in favor of “gender identity.” A similar bill passed the Massachusetts Senate last month. Gov. Charlie Baker has already said he’ll sign the bill.

    “The Gender Identity Public Accommodations Bill” (H.4343) provides a three-front advance of transgender “anti-discrimination” laws, reports Conservative Review:

  • It replaces the word “sex” with “gender identity” in multiple areas of Massachusetts law.
  • The Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination must amend rules and policies to comply with this shift from biological sex to “gender identity.”
  • It allows people to use the restroom or locker room that matches their gender identity.

Victory brought eye-popping hyperbole from the bill’s co-sponsor, Rep. Byron Rushing. “We are doing the work the founders of our nation intended for us to do,” said Rushing, “This is a great day for us and we should be very proud.”

My comment: Go to confession, get shrived, set your worldly affairs in order, buy firearms, stock the basement with foodstuffs and fuel.

It is that bad. The keel beam of the ship just broke, we are taking water fore and aft, and the crew are busily pumping water aboard as quickly as can be, the pilot steers toward the reef, the engines are roaring full speed ahead.

Personally, I think the crazier things get, the more egregiously awful they become, the better.  All of this will be necessary to steel the civilizationists for the hard work to come. It is getting more and more difficult for the moderates and apologists and churchians to manufacture specious arguments claiming everything is really just fine and things are getting better all the time.

Even tender-hearted women are rapidly beginning to reach the conclusion that “kill it with fire” is the only solution to the sick society we presently endure.

Robbed of a good comedy

David French disappoints us all by refusing to be drafted by Bill Kristol:

Here is a sentence I never thought I’d type: After days of prayer, reflection, and serious study of the possibilities, I am not going to run as an independent candidate for president of the United States.

I gave it serious thought — as a pretty darn obscure lawyer, writer, and veteran — only because we live in historic times. Never before have both parties failed so spectacularly, producing two dishonest, deceitful candidates who should be disqualified from running for town council, much less leader of the free world.

Hillary Clinton lies habitually and changes position on virtually every public issue except for her pro-abortion extremism, and she has a suspicious record of making public decisions that favor donors to the Clinton Foundation. Her signal foreign-policy “achievement” was helping launch a war in Libya that not only cost American lives in Benghazi but also helped transform the nation into ISIS’s latest playpen.

To add to all that, she’s in the middle of an active FBI investigation. If I had handled classified information the way we know she handled classified information, my career would already be over, and the single goal of my life would be persuading the prosecutor to reach a lenient plea bargain.

Trump also lies habitually (sometimes minute by minute), and changes position based on his moods. In one breath he claims to support working men and women, and then with the next breath he threatens to destroy our economy through trade wars or by playing games with the full faith and credit of the United States. He believes an American judge — a man born in Indiana who spent months hiding from drug cartels after they’d put a “hit” on him – can’t rule on a case involving Trump University because the judge’s parents emigrated from Mexico.

It’s telling that the best case he can make against Trump is a) to equate the criticism of free trade with lying, b) to equate calling a Mexican a Mexican with lying, and to cry about how many of Trump’s supporters aren’t impressed by his conspicuous virtue-signaling with an African accessory.

The #AltRight isn’t going to have David French to kick around anymore!

“The statistics for black incarceration are about to go up.”

Milo is attacked by Black Lives Matter buffoons at DePaul:

DePaul University fell into chaos Tuesday night after liberal activists hijacked a College Republicans event that featured Milo Yiannopoulos as a speaker.

Yiannopoulos, a British writer for Breitbart News, has been visiting colleges across the U.S. on his “Dangerous Faggot Tour” (Yiannopoulos is a rather flamboyant homosexual). Yiannopoulos’ often-provocative rhetoric has provoked outrage at many of the campuses he has visited, and DePaul was no exception.

The event, held at a packed auditorium, began without incident. But just under 20 minutes in, as Yiannopoulos was ridiculing the idea of “microaggressions,” a group of Black Lives Matter demonstrators stormed the stage and derailed the entire event….

Finally, after about a half hour of chaos, Yiannopoulos said there was no prospect of the event being completed as planned, and he announced that he would instead individually greet each attendee outside. Protesters and Yiannopoulos backers continued to loudly argue at the center of the stage for several additional minutes before the auditorium finally cleared out.

The situation outside was no less chaotic, though, with many anti-Yiannopoulos protesters crowding the streets before and after the event. Sometimes the situation even grew mildly violent, with several witnesses likening it to a riot.

It’s probably just as well that I don’t do speaking engagements. I’d have a cohort of trained VFM for security and no one would be storming the stage without being incapacitated, zip-tied, hooded, and delivered to the campus police. Even at GGinParis, I arranged to have martial artists providing security and that wasn’t even an event at which we anticipated any protests or trouble.

Vegetable totalitarians

Don’t feel bad about cutting a vegan out of your life if he ceases to mind his own business and starts preaching. They’re an SJW cult, they’re not just people who happen to prefer to different food.

L.A.’s vegan vortex has angrily turned on the most prominent vegan restaurant group in town this week as word has spread that its owners are not just eating meat but raising and slaughtering animals at the working farm where they live in Northern California.

Matthew and Terces Engelhart, the husband-and-wife proprietors of favored entertainment industry haunt Cafe Gratitude, tell The Hollywood Reporter they’ve been receiving death threats as part of a quickly growing, internet-bred campaign against them. It has also spawned a deluge of one-star reviews on their local outposts’ respective Yelp pages, a boycott group on Facebook that tallies 571 members at press time and plans now underway for a protest at the Larchmont Village location on Friday at 7 p.m.

“People have taken up the mob mentality,” says Matthew. “It saddens me that the choices we made in the privacy of our home would lead people to feel so betrayed that it’s elevated to threats on our lives. I’m very discouraged.”

The trouble began last week when animal rights activists discovered and then widely circulated a 14-month-old blog post written by Terces on the Engelharts’ Be Love Farm website, which mixed an announcement of their transition back into a meat diet again after nearly 40 years of vegetarianism (they had been vegan since 2003) with posted pictures of strained beef broth and a freezer full of pastured beef from their own dairy cows. Matthew tells THR they have kept chickens on the farm for seven years “for eggs only,” along with the cows for five years for milk, cheese and butter that’s for sale. (He claims they’ve “harvested,” or slaughtered, several cows in total and never sold the meat, only shared it with “our friends, neighbors and community.”)

The news has come as a shock to many vegans, who have been regular customers of the restaurants and claim the Engelharts have built their brand on not just serving vegan food but clearly wrapping themselves in the righteousness of the vegan cause — which they argue has now been undermined. “The reason we’re so upset is that veganism is a belief system,” says Carrie Christianson, who started the Facebook boycott group. “You are patronizing a restaurant that you think has that philosophy, and it turns out it doesn’t. Vegans should know that this restaurant has a farm that slaughters animals.”

“Veganism is a belief system.” That’s really all you need to know. It’s a secular religion. Since you are what to eat, my belief system says vegans are vegetables and should be treated accordingly.

SJWs strike back

In their own hapless and inimitably gamma way. First, Pedophil Sandifer makes a hash of the time-tested “I know you are but what am I” tactic and engages in the usual SJW projection in libeling the Hugo-nominated GamerGate artist Kukuruyo:

Vox Day Put A Child Pornographer On The Hugo Ballot 

For obvious reasons, I will not be providing links here, however I am happy to provide them privately to anyone with a legitimate interest in the information, including law enforcement.

It was brought to my attention today that “kukuruyo,” one of the artists that Vox Day put on the Rabid Puppies slate in Best Fan Artist and that made it onto the Hugo Ballot recently posted to his blog a commissioned drawing of comic book character Ms. Marvel in which her genitalia is clearly visible and provocatively displayed. Ms. Marvel – whose comic won last year’s Hugo for Best Graphic Story – is a sixteen-year-old girl in the comics. Under US law, this would seem to legally be child pornography.

Although the drawing post-dates Day’s placement of the artist on his slate, the hypocrisy of Vox Day endorsing the work of a child pornographer is particularly glaring given that he continues to throw childish insults like this around:

    #SJW logic: Pedophil Sandifer complains that #RabidPuppies are “bullying fucks” while declaring that they are outnumbered “3,800 to 200”.
    — Supreme Dark Lord (@voxday) April 30, 2016

and has been vocal in accusing sci-fi fandom of harboring pedophiles, including slating two works with arguments to this effect in Best Related Work. 

He then proceeded to double down and do it again. A few relevant points that collectively demonstrate the utter absurdity of Pedophil’s libel:

  1. Kukuruyo has stated that he didn’t know the fictitious age of the Marvel cartoon character, Ms Marvel, and drew her as a 20-year-old.
  2. I am reliably informed that Ms Marvel was 16 when she was introduced in 2013. That makes her at least 18 now, possibly 19. 
  3. The age of consent in Spain is 16. Kukuruyo is Spanish, lives in Spain, and US law is not relevant to his activities.
  4. The drawing cannot be child pornography regardless of what age the fictitious character is supposed to be. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that drawings and computer representations are not child pornography.
  5. Phil Sandifer has admitted that he was aware of the Supreme Court ruling when he made the accusation.
  6. The Ms Marvel drawing was drawn and posted well after I recommended Kukuruyo, who draws GamerGate Life, for the Hugo Award.
  7. SJWs always project. This is more than a little alarming in this particular case.

The most reprehensible aspect of Sandifer’s attack on GamerGate’s favorite artist is the way he is observably attempting to cast doubt on the undeniable fact that the science fiction fandom community has harbored pedophiles in the recent past, and the very reasonable suspicion that it is continuing to do so now.
In tangentially related news, while Camestros Felapton has gotten himself banned elsewhere in the Puppyverse, he’d always behaved himself here and never done worse than embarrass himself by demonstrating his inability to understand the core difference between rhetoric and dialectic, and between enthymemes and logical syllogisms. However, he’s been blatantly lying about both me and Castalia House at File 770, so he’s now permanently banned from commenting here as well.

I’ve been a fan of Gene Wolfe for a long time. I love the idea of the
work you are doing and from what I have seen the scale of work and
scholarship you have put into is impressive. However, I can’t vote for
your work when your publisher is promoting it by attempting to exploit
issues like child-sexual abuse. There isn’t some neat way of separating
‘Castalia House’ from the actions and strategies of Theodore Beale/Vox
Day and there is a qualitative difference between authors who have been
unwillingly nominated by the Rabid slate and authors who have willingly
chosen to work with Castalia House. I understand that for you it was a
matter of getting your work published and promoted and I understand why
any author would want that for their work – but in the case of Castalia
“promoted” necessarily includes stunts like slating the Hugo awards and
attempts to trash whole categories, and it includes slurs and defamation
of *other authors* people who, like you, have poured sweat &
scholarship and long days/nights into their work. However, I also get
that Vox Day perceives criticism as betrayal and that he has a tendency
to ‘punish’ what he perceives as betrayal. So I am certainly not asking
you denounce Day or withdraw from the awards or any other kind of
symbolic action, but I am saying I can’t vote for your work and I can’t
see it as a legitimate nomination because there is no way of seperating
what is published by Castalia from how Castalia promotes itself and its
published works.

 To set the record straight:

  1. Castalia is not promoting our various works by exploiting issues like child sexual abuse. Being a father as well as the acquaintance of several adults who were abused as children, I take the matter very seriously and I am committed to identifying and exposing every abuser in the science fiction community, no matter how celebrated or protected they are. I do not view the Hugo Awards as a promotion, promoting Castalia’s books is not a primary, secondary, or even tertiary objective of the Rabid Puppies campaigns, and the only book we will be promoting on the subject is the one we are publishing by Moira Greyland about her experience growing up in the science fiction community.
  2. I have not defamed any other authors, as the lawyers for John Scalzi, Samuel Delaney, and N.K. Jemisin, among others, will have informed them if they ever bothered to look into the matter. To the contrary, in the opinion of no less than three UK barristers, two of whom are experts on the subject and have won libel cases I have been legitimately and repeatedly libeled by a number of individuals in the media and the science fiction community.
  3. I do not perceive criticism as betrayal, as pretty much every reader of this blog can testify, having criticized me at one time or another. I have no problem with criticism, what I object to is blatant falsehoods. Third Law. SJWs always project.

Felapton does raise one valid point, which is that “there is no way of seperating what is published by Castalia from how Castalia promotes itself and its published works.”

However, in doing so, he only underlines Larry Correia’s original point about the Hugo Awards, which is that the awards are not given for merit, but rather are awarded on the basis of political approval. If the voters were solely, or even primarily, concerned with literary merit, as the SJWs in science fiction claim, this inability to separate the work from the publisher would not matter in the least.

But, as Felapton admits, since he can’t separate the work from the publisher, the merit of the work does not matter and he will not vote for any Castalia-published work on the basis of this genetic fallacy. That is certainly his prerogative, of course, but in explaining his reasoning, he has also proved the Sad Puppies original case about the Hugo Awards, which is that they are awards given out on the basis of political approval, not the pretense of literary merit the science fiction community presently affects.

Third, and more or less unrelated, but not meriting a separate post, Greg Hullender estimates the number of Rabid Puppies:

I’ve run the numbers using the power-law estimator, and from that I calculate that about 270 rabid puppies voted the slate this year, and that they kept fairly good slate discipline. I only get two anomalies:

“Hyperspace Demons,” by Jonathan Moeller should have been a finalist for Best Novelette. If we assume that he quietly declined the nomination, the numbers are a perfect fit.

Similarly, Bryan Thomas Schmidt should have been a finalist for Best Editor, Long Form. If we assume he too declined the nomination, those numbers are also a perfect fit.

That sounds about 60 percent too low to me, although it’s higher than Felapton’s estimate of 200, but we’ll find out in due course. My guess, and it is nothing more than a logical extrapolation from last year’s vote, would be around 650, as I thought we’d need at least 750 to run the table this year. In any event, I’ll leave Kukuruyo with the last word, because the salt must flow.