Tag: Jordanetics

There is a lot of uncertainty these days, but at least we now know one thing in the wake of the recent votes. Jordan Peterson will be moving to Oregon.

BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use.

But not, of course, for the meth. DEFINITELY not for the meth. I can’t help but wondering, though, if Oregon might be making a serious play for the movie business that is presently fleeing the Hellmouth. 

Investor: So, where are you thinking of filming?

Producer: We’ve looked at a few locations – SNIFF – Oregon looks really good, you know!

The conservative establishment’s favorite lunatic drug addict is at it again and now he’s explaining the existence of evil:

Why the Serpent Lurks Eternally in the Garden

The following is from a draft of 

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life

The presence of the serpent in the garden also signifies something even deeper: the impossibility of the order suitable for human beings existing without some admixture of chaos. There is simply no way, even for God himself, to wall off some isolated portion of the greater surrounding reality and make everything permanently predictable and safe within it. Some of the reality that has been so carefully excluded will always sneak back in. A snake will therefore inevitably appear, no matter what care is taken. Even the most assiduous of modern parents will not be able to protect their children from internet porn, drugs, or alcohol, even if they lock them in the basement (in which case they only end up exposing them to the snakes they harbor within themselves). We might have learned such things by watching the great, degenerate totalitarian utopias of the 20th century. Leaders and citizens alike attempted, with ever-increasing desperation, to force everything that existed into a defined, comprehensible and too-perfect order. That merely ensured that chaos burst forth without reserve into their souls, and then into their societies.   

You see, you have to give into the chaos if you want not-too-perfect order. That’s why smoking meth is the best way to avoid becoming a drug addict. No one has thought this thought before while not-smoking not-meth.

Take your pills!

And possibly a little darker too. I refer, of course, to the Jordan Peterson family saga, which, among other things, now involves a Russian man possessed by a demon named Igor.

Mikhaila started “The Lion Diet” which consists of only eating Beef, Salt, & Water. Although this verges on an eating disorder, Mikhaila claimed that it cured many of her health problems. She even announced that she stopped taking her medications, including an anti-herpes drug. She then convinced her father to start her diet. Soon after starting, Jordan reported that he stopped taking his anti-depressants.

It was around this time that Peterson reported not being able to sleep for 25 days straight while experiencing an “overwhelming sense of impending doom” after drinking some apple cider.

I’m still amused that anyone ever thought Jordan Peterson had anything at all to offer anyone. I mean, didn’t any of you Peterson fans ever read anything he wrote? It took me about 30 seconds reading one blog post to know he was a liar, and less than one chapter of his first book to know he was a lunatic.

He totally did go without sleep for 25 days. Because studies. An interview with Jordan Peterson by Mikhaela Peterson:

JP: I couldn’t stand up without fainting. I couldn’t sleep. I don’t think I slept at all for for something on the in the order of three weeks.

MP: Yeah, people like you went on Joe Rogan and talked about this Sulfite reaction you had and how you didn’t sleep and people commented that, oh, it’s not possible to stay awake for that long. But if you actually look into sodium metabolic sulfide allergies, The symptoms that we experienced aren’t unheard of, there are papers.

JP: It’s also impossible to stay awake voluntarily that long. That’s not the same as not being able to sleep. Those are very, very different things, whatever. It’s possible that when I was laying there thinking I wasn’t sleeping, that now and then I drifted off and would wake up and not notice. I mean, I can’t eliminate that as a possibility. But I can certainly tell you that I slept little enough so that it was exceedingly unpleasant. It’s a very long time to stay awake.

Liars always resort to redefinitions as soon as they are caught and called out. And Jordan Peterson appears to be a seriously pathological liar. To this day, he still can’t admit that he was simply talking nonsense on Joe Rogan.

He just can’t do it.

And it definitely, definitely, wasn’t meth.

It’s not Jordan Peterson’s fault. He’s not weak. He’s not psychologically broken. Sometimes, definitely not methamphetamine is the only way to cope with the terrible pressure of success and fame:

Fame can send people into a tailspin, and this kind of fame, especially so. Peterson has hundreds of thousands of fans around the world, and they have brought him wealth and renown. He also has hundreds of thousands of enemies, and many of them work in the media. The fans love him for what he says and writes, and for the conviction he adds to it. The enemies hate him for what he is. They put him ever on the defensive. He must prove his innocence, and he can’t. In their company, the issues aren’t salient; he must justify himself. Worse, he must justify himself to people who will never believe that he is justified.

It’s exhausting; it’s exasperating. The people who have challenged Peterson to explain himself, and who then mangle his explanations, seem altogether secure in their position. They have big institutions and left/liberal culture behind them. They will leave the interview unchanged. Peterson, meanwhile, walks away, irritated and uncertain.

I am not sure that these episodes played a large role in his collapse, along with the illnesses in his family and the fatigue of nonstop travel and the medications. But this set-up, crafted by an academia/media juggernaut that demands fealty to dogmas about patriarchy, racism, and gender fluidity, is a unique type of pain. It is dispiriting to sit down with someone for the first time and read in his eyes dislike. It’s singularly frustrating to realize that nothing you say will lift the cloud over your head. And then to maintain your politeness . . . well, Peterson deserves a rest.

It’s interesting to note that one never sees this sort of sympathy expressed for Milo, for Richard Spencer, or for any evil white racist sexist homophobe who is pilloried relentlessly by the media. In other words, they’re still trying to salvage Jordan Peterson, the Right Answer for Young Men, despite the fact that he is observably a trainwreck of an individual.

Fortunately for humanity, its greatest thinker has survived to think more of the thoughts that no one has thought before. Mikhaela Peterson explains the recent silence of Jordan Peterson:

The last year has been extremely difficult for our family. Dad was put on a low dose of a benzodiazepine a few years ago for anxiety following an extremely severe autoimmune reaction to food. He took the medication as prescribed. Last April when my mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer, the dose of the medication was increased. It became apparent that he was suffering from both a physical dependency and a paradoxical reaction to the medication. A paradoxical reaction means the drugs do the opposite of what they’re supposed to. These reactions are rare but are not unheard of.

For the last 8 months he’s been in unbearable discomfort from this drug, made worse when trying to remove it, because of the addition of withdrawal symptoms, stemming from physical dependence. He experienced terrible akathisia, which is a condition where the person feels an incredible, endless, irresistible restlessness, bordering on panic, and an inability to sit still. The reaction made him suicidal.

After several failed treatment attempts in North American hospitals, including attempts at tapering and micro-tapering, we had to seek an emergency medical benzodiazepine detox, which we were only able to find in Russia. It was incredibly gruelling, and was further complicated by severe pneumonia which we’ve been told he developed in one of the previous hospitals. He’s had to spend 4 weeks in the ICU in terrible shape, but, with the help of some extremely competent and courageous doctors, he survived.  The decision to bring him to Russia was made in extreme desperation, when we couldn’t find any better option. The uncertainty around his recovery has been one of the most difficult and scary experiences we’ve ever had.

So: Finally Dad is on the mend, even though there’s a lot of physiological damage that he needs to recover from. He’s improving, and is off the horrible medication. His sense of humour is back. He’s smiling again for the first time in months, but he still has a long way to go to recover fully.

It’s more than a little strange, is it not, that a complete stranger could coincidentally happen to anticipate an emotional crisis of this magnitude prior to its occurrence? But setting aside the various possible causes of the crisis, let us simply observe that perhaps one would be, shall we say, unwise, to live one’s life according to the philosophy and precepts of a man who is clearly unwell on multiple levels, including the physical, the psychological, and the spiritual.

ADHD, depression, disease, and diabetes. Best of all, you can cook up the cure in your own garage! Methamphetamine is truly the wonder drug of the 21st Century.

He’s actually breaking down and crying in interviews because he’s out of meth someone tweeted mean things at him.

I’ve enjoyed his work, but Jordan Peterson is lost. He had a horrific mental break during his recent interview with Rex Murphy where he literally cries about getting mean tweets. 

Here is the transcript:

You were asking about courage earlier, you know, um, one of the things that I have watched quite frequently is the way people respond to being mobbed on Twitter.

Yeah.

You know, I’ve almost stopped looking at Twitter. It’s been about three months that I’ve taken a Twitter hiatus, let’s say. I still post… I don’t even have my password anymore. I send what I want to post to a third party and they post it because it keeps me out of

An antiseptic distance.

That’s right. Exactly. And that’s exactly the right way of thinking about it. You know, people, civilized people, and I mean that civilized, social people cannot tolerate being mobbed. Because there’s a reason for that, you see. You said, with regards to the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal, if there’s 16 people on one side and one on the other, you might be thinking that the 16 people are right.

More or less.

Right, right! But you think of the situation where you said something on Twitter and a thousand people mob you. Publicly! Your first response, if you’re… your first response is going to be to examine your own conscience and see how you transgressed. It’s not really much different psychologically… I mean it’s lesser… it’s not that much different than waking up one morning, coming to your door, and finding a mob of your neighbors angrily aggregated on your lawn! It’s a terrible shock for people. It really hurts them! They’re often, often, by all accounts, damaged for lengthy periods of time by this.  And their first impulse is to apologize, which is truly the wrong thing to do!

It is.

Well, the right thing to do is to understand that if you haven’t done anything wrong, you don’t apologize. Now that’s very difficult. Very difficult. And to wait. If you wait two weeks, people will come to your defense.

Yeah, they will.

But it takes two weeks for them to get their act together, whereas it takes the activists, who are unbelievably organized, fifteen seconds to mob.

This guy is such a drugged-out emotional train wreck, it’s almost not even funny anymore. Almost. Not that he doesn’t deserve every single bit of criticism and mockery he receives, because he merits it on the basis of being a complete charlatan who should never have posed as any sort of lifestyle philosopher for young men. He’s now quite obviously the frail and weepy shadow of the towering intellectual figure he pretended to be.

And remember, this is the very same man who claimed community doesn’t matter, family doesn’t matter, and every man should stand on his own, by himself, and without any allegiance to a group identity, because group identities are “pathological”. Now he’s literally crying in public because others don’t come to his defense soon enough when he’s legitimately attacked for his charlatanry.

What a pathological liar. What an utter freaking fraud. And, of course, he gets it absolutely wrong, as Captain America explains the correct way to address a howling, wrongheaded mob.

A Roosh reader observes that Jordan Peterson’s parenting skills have turned out to be more than a little suboptimal.

Peterson’s daughter finally confirms she’s “separated” from her husband and has been “co-parenting” (not that this is remotely a surprise to anyone who has been glancing at her Instagram etc.)

Not that this is a new thought here but it’s rather damning that his daughter has turned out be “attempting to find herself” (in the usual fashion) even with a toddler child and seemingly very supportive and at least somewhat redpilled father. Very disheartening, obviously the fame and attention got to her head a bit but I’m well past the point of seeing Peterson as any sort of personal role model. Having read 12 Rules twice I can tell you there’s some valuable proto-morality that can set others in the right direction but “You will know them by their fruits” (Matt. 7:16a).

Perhaps we’ve seen enough of Peterson’s fruits to move on to deeper traditions as a whole.

This guy gets it.

Peterson made millions writing a book telling people how to live. But look at how someone turns out that had all the benefit of his advise 24/7.

No one who has read Jordanetics will be even remotely surprised by this. Jordan Peterson has been a terrible parent since he was passively permitting other children to mistreat his daughter at the park. The fact that a lot of young men have been looking up to Peterson as an ersatz father figure promises more than a few additional disasters in the future.

UPDATE: Seriously suboptimal.

She shows a screenshot of her prescription history. Two of those prescriptions are used to treat herpes.