I warned you about Jordan Peterson. A lot of people were unhappy when I first came out and pointed out that Jordan Peterson is not a good guy, that Jordan Peterson is not on our side, that Jordan Peterson is not an enemy of the SJWs, and that he is not someone who’s good for the Right. Now, the thing is, either you stand for what is right or what you don’t, and when Jordan Peterson came out today against Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation and explicitly came out and said that if Kavanaugh is confirmed -which he will be, by the way, in case you haven’t heard, two of the four maybe votes in the Senate have come out openly and confirmed that they are going to support Kavanaugh’s confirmation and more significantly one of them is actually the West Virginia Democrat – so you know, for years Jordan Peterson has said he’s terrified of making the mistake that is going to ruin his career.
Now I don’t know if this is actually sufficient to sink his career or not, but it should be, because this makes very clear that Jordan Peterson is in league with the SJWs. Jordan Peterson is, in American terms, a Democrat and there’s absolutely no question that the intellectual dark web, the Ben Shapiros the Eric Weinsteins, the recycled New Atheist known as Sam Harris, and Jordan Peterson himself, are all on the side of the Left. This is not a surprise, I mean, I’ve been telling you guys this for ages. I knew that he was not a good guy, that he was not on our side, that he was part of the problem rather than part of the solution from the time I read his book. There are so many people who say such incredibly dumb things about Peterson because they happen to like one thing that he said, they happen to like two things that he said. Here’s the thing you can always find something that somebody says that you agree with. That doesn’t mean that their objectives are aligned with yours
The interesting thing about this particular lawsuit is that number one, the defamation claim is ridiculous. It is very, very hard to win a defamation claim in the United States. If this was in England or in a couple other legal jurisdictions maybe there’s a decent chance, but not in the States, with a few specific state-based exceptions. However, the tortious interference claim is quite possibly serious and it is quite possibly legitimate. We don’t know, however, because we do not know what went into Antarctic Press’s decision-making.
Now the circumstantial evidence does tend to indicate that Mark Waid’s call to them and the contract subsequently being withdrawn was causal, that there was a causal relationship between those two things, but for all we know at the moment it’s just circumstantial evidence. This is why there is a part of the legal process called discovery, when you get to interview the other side under oath, take affadavits, and then of course request any and all communications that were related to that decision. And so you know, again, we don’t know! Antarctic has very publicly stated that Mark Waid’s phone call had nothing to do with their decision, but of course they might be lying. They can say whatever they want and it’s totally meaningless at this point in time. Given their obvious desire to stay in with the comics industry mainstream, I don’t think that their word can be taken seriously, and so we’ll find out down the road.
I don’t think if this will ever go to trial. I think that if discovery reveals that Mark Waid’s interference did cause Antarctic to break their contract with Richard Meyer, then Waid is going to be advised to settle, and given that he may not even be paying for his lawyer himself, he may not have a whole lot to say about it. So here’s the thing: at this point in time I don’t think that either Richard Meyer and his attorney, or Mark Waid and his attorney, actually know what the truth is. The only people who really know what the truth is are not party to the lawsuit, and they are the people at Antarctic Press.
That being said, a lot of the stuff that people are talking about and what people are saying about the whole lawsuit is totally ridiculous. You know, they’re they’re trying to bring up stuff related to past comments that Richards made, they’re trying to bring up comments that Mark Waid has made, and all that sort of thing. What you have to understand is that none of that matters. You can check this out on InfoGalactic to confirm it, but there are six elements to a claim of tortious interference. Now if you listen, you’ll notice that all of the self-appointed legal experts on sites like Bounding Into Comics and Bleeding Cool and whatever, they’re not even addressing the relevant points.
So the six points. First, the existence of a contractual relationship or beneficial business relationship between the two parties, was there one between Richard Meier and Antarctic Press? Yes, there was a contract. Number two, knowledge of that relationship by a third party, there was knowledge of that? Mark Waid knew about it. Three, intent of the third party to induce a party to the relationship to breach the relationship. Did Mark Waid have that intent? Yes, we know he had that intent, he publicly stated it. Four, lack of any privilege on the part of the third party to induce such a breach. Obviously as a freelancer working for Marvel, Waid had nothing to do with either company, so four is also confirmed. Five, the contractual relationship is breached. Was it breached? Yes it was, that’s also yes. And then six, damage to the party against whom the breach occurs. Now that’s the one area that might be the weak link for Richard Meyers’s case.
(Note that it is NOT necessarily required to conclusively demonstrate causality between the interference and the breach. It can be sufficient to demonstrate that the interference was intentional, improper, and the desired breach subsequently took place. The legal focus is on the improper nature of the interference, not establishing that the interference was the sole or primary cause of the breach.)
You know, it is somewhat troubling that he is saying things that are manifestly not true, saying, “well I couldn’t get it published by any other publisher.” I can’t speak for any other publisher, but all I know is that we never heard from Richard Meyers. Dark Legion never heard from Richard Meyers. Arkhaven Comics would not have published him, but Dark Legion might have, and so if he didn’t talk to us, then he probably didn’t talk to Top Cow, he probably didn’t talk to DC, he probably didn’t talk to IDW, or to Image. I don’t know who he talked to, but to claim that you could not be published by any other publisher when at least one other publisher knows that you never contacted them… I think that you need to be careful about making obviously false claims like that. If you make a false claim, if you make a claim that everybody knows is false, it’s going to be shot down.
Now that doesn’t mean that Richard Meyers hasn’t been damaged. I think that you can probably make a pretty good case that his reputation was damaged considering the level of the incendiary attacks and so forth on him. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the guy. I don’t know the guy, literally the only thing I know about the guy is that he does nothing but badmouth me and Arkhaven and Dark Legion and everything to do with us, so as far as I’m concerned we’re definitely not standing with him. We’re also definitely not standing with Mark Waid, we’re just sitting here watching this from the sidelines and learning as much as we can about the industry.
But what I can also say is that if the lawyers who finally contacted me about the ComicsGate trademark via email are responsible for Richard Meyers’s case, he’s going to lose. Because if they are so dumb, if they are so lazy and incapable of doing their homework, as to send me personally a cease-and-desist email for something that I haven’t done and to which I am not even a relevant party, then there is absolutely no way they are going to win a case against a top-notch lawyer like Mark Zaid. That’s my perspective, you can take it or leave it, but the fact of the matter is that when you see incompetence and ineptitude of the sort that we’ve witnessed from some of the legal folks surrounding the ComicsGate people, I don’t think that it’s likely that they’re going to be very successful even if they have a pretty good case.
In further support of my observations, a Darkstream viewer commented:
You make a good point about the lawyers. I was arguing with Rekieta Law about the trademark thing and he didn’t realize the burden of proof is on the plaintiff not the defendant. This is something I found from 15-30 min of internet research so how he got it wrong boggle the mind. Just shows he didn’t bother to research it. It doesn’t surprise me he didn’t even bother to consider that maybe you sue the company, not management or the figurehead.
UPDATE: I dug out the “cease-and-desist” email from 2VS’s attorneys and can confirm they are a Pennsylvania law firm that is not the same as the Texas firm that is handling Meyers’s case. So, perhaps the Texas lawyers are more on the ball.
I can also confirm that I am in no way sponsored by, approved by, or affiliated with Two-Face Van Sciver or ComicsGate. I most certainly am none of those things. At this point, who the hell would want to be?
He calls himself the supreme Dark Lord and then he wonders why people make him out to be evil.
I don’t wonder why people make me out to be evil. I know why they do, because I violate their narrative and I threaten their narrative. They only have two weapons: they call people evil and they call people stupid. They can’t successfully call me stupid, so they call me evil. This is not rocket science. And then she says, “yeah it’s hard to understand.”
They feign ignorance in order to try to support this narrative so then they talk about… okay now, this is just ridiculous.
Okay so when did the Alt-Hero comic book get started? Well, Vox launched a crowdfunding campaign after the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
Okay, that’s true and it has nothing to do with it! I also launched a crowdfunding campaign after the NFL 2016 season. What they’re trying to do is they’re trying to draw a nonexistent connection between the Unite the Right rally and our crowdfunding.
These diversity candidates that are very hard left are completely unappealing to white Democrats across the country. White Democrats are gradually beginning to wake up to the fact that their party has no use for them, that their party actually hates them and it’s definitely not going to govern in their interest, and so if you look at if you look at what the media is trying to do, what they’re trying to claim, it’s very clear that their narrative is entirely false. In fact, it would not surprise me in the slightest if not only was there not a blue wave, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if Republicans considerably overperformed again, especially because we’re starting to see the early indications of that. In Texas there was just a special election for Congress, it was a seat that’s been held by Democrats for 139 years and it went for Hillary by something like 12 points, and it just went Republican.
Now can you imagine what would happen how the media would report it if a seat that had been Republican for 139 years, that Donald Trump had won by 12 points, suddenly turned Democrat? You know we’d be hearing, “oh this is this is absolute proof the blue wave is inevitable” and so forth, but where we actually have what may be reliable information, we actually have the actual evidence – it is scanty – but what there is actually indicates that if there is a wave, it’s going to be in the Republican’s favor, especially when you look at the generic party identification where the Republican identification has actually increased by a point and the Democratic identification has fallen by four points. That’s a five-point swing right there, and so you know when you look at the actual situation instead of the fake polls and the fake news pushed by the SJW media, you immediately see that the situation is not at all what they think it is. It’s not at all what they claim it to be.
And so what people need to stop doing is stop paying attention to people who have reliably proved themselves to be unreliable. I can’t tell you how many people on the blog say “oh I’m worried about this, I’m concerned about that.” You know, you’re actually working towards making what you fear happen. Why are you needlessly, pointlessly, groundlessly demoralizing people when all the actual evidence is actually quite positive in the in the short-term political sense?
Somebody points out we were told down-ballot Republicans were all going to lose in 2016 and Trump would cause Republicans to lose Congress. Did that happen? No, the exact opposite happened and the same thing is going to be true in 2018. Look, I’ve been predicting a Trumpslide in 2020. There was not a Trumpslide in 2016, Trump won but it was relatively close. So how are we going to get from a narrow victory in 2016 to a Trumpslide in 2020 with Democrats over performing in 2018? That’s not going to happen, but the Trumpslide is going to happen, and so I think that it is is very, very obvious that the media narrative is false and the Republican doomsayers are wrong again.
So today the God-Emperor announced $200 billion in new trade tariffs targeted against Chinese imports, and he’s also made it clear that if China goes ahead and retaliates he’s going to go ahead and drop even more tariffs on them as well. Now this, of course, has all the usual suspects, all the free traders, all the neocons, all the people who think that responding “uh, Ricardo” is a meaningful response to tariffs, in a tizzy. And they’ve been upset about this, they’ve been arguing their theory over and over and over again ever since the first tariffs were announced a couple months ago, but if you noticed something, what hasn’t happened, what consequences were predicted by all of these doomsayers didn’t come to pass.
Instead what happened is what anti-free trade people like myself predicted would happen, and what proper economic theory, conventional economic theory, predicts would happen – the economy grew! This is not difficult, this is not at all hard. Now, if you want to argue that the idea of a objective measure of a national economy, especially one that is denominated in a currency, is a contradiction in terms and that it’s not possible to measure a national economy, especially not in its own currency I would accept that argument, but then there’s no point in having this discussion because it’s not possible to argue about something that can’t be quantified becoming larger or smaller. If you’re accepting mainstream economics to the point that you’re talking about the economy growing or the economy shrinking, then you have to accept the mainstream theory and what the mainstream theory very clearly states is that the size of the economy as measured in gross domestic product is C plus I plus G Plus X minus M, as consumer spending plus investment plus government spending plus exports minus imports, so what happens when you reduce imports the economy grows. You know, this is an absolutely straightforward mathematical relationship, it is a very simple equation, and so it’s not at all surprising that despite all the doomsaying, despite all the ridiculous predictions, that the economy has grown and we’ve actually seen the fastest growth rates for the U.S. economy since the 1980s.
The important thing to understand about this is that it’s real. You know, when I told you guys about this stuff ten days ago, two weeks ago, whatever it was, a lot of people just simply didn’t believe me. They didn’t want to believe, they wanted to believe that I was just coming up with some excuse to justify my actions. Now whether you agree with my actions or not, the point is that this situation is real. SJWs within the technology companies are abusing their positions and going after people they consider to be the enemy, and that’s not just people like us, people who are open and avowedly Christian, who are open and avowedly Alt-Right, who are open about being nationalists, but it also includes all of those who are incorrectly lumped in with us.
And so you know, they’re going to take these kinds of actions and you need to be prepared for it. Now we didn’t flip out, we didn’t panic, we just calmly sat down and analyzed the stuff, looked more deeply into it and then figured out what was going on. The concern that I have is that it’s very clear to me, from the way that the ComicsGate folks are attempting to virtue signal and attempting to get themselves out of the sights of the SJWs, means that they’re not ready for this.
So what did we learn today? I don’t know about you, but I was, of course, horrified to read the Washington Post and be informed that not only is ComicsGate Hitler, but that Ethan Van Sciver is also Hitler, and that Diversity & Comics is also Hitler too. Now, I have to admit that there is a certain amount of, I guess since we’re on the Germanic theme, schadenfreude, to be had in watching how this is playing out from the outside. The thing that the virtue signalers and ComicsGatekeepers simply refuse to understand is that there is nothing – nothing – you can do to defend yourself against a rhetorical attack by SJWs.
You can virtue signal all you like, you can run around talking about how you are a diverse movement and that you that you hate hate hate the Alt-Right, that you disavow, disapprove, and anathematize people like myself and so forth, but it won’t do you a damned bit of good. So yeah, my first thought when I was reading that was, “hey, don’t come talking to me about this, you know, Two-Face van Sciver owns the trademark!” I’m actually waiting for the first accusations that my contacts at the Washington Post set that whole thing up, that this is somehow my fault. I deny that! I absolutely deny that I arranged that hit piece!
I’m not going to pretend that I don’t find it funny. I find it more than a little bit amusing, though not quite hysterical just because I understand that the very ComicsGatekeepers who were trying to brigade this particular stream are probably genuinely astounded, and genuinely dismayed, at these attacks from the mainstream media. And what you have to understand is that they’re not going to stop, they’re not going to listen to you. They’re not going to give you a fair shake, they’re not going to allow you to defend yourself in any way, shape, or form, and they’re going to lie. So you’re going to see more articles like this. You know, we saw this with GamerGate. A lot of you guys don’t know about the history of the Sad Puppies and the Rabid Puppies, but you really need to learn it because you guys are in the position of the Sad Puppies. The Sad Puppies were completely obliterated and that’s the fate that is in store for you if you follow your instincts.
Needless to say, the ComicsGatekeepers didn’t listen to me and continued to engage in some very public acts of virtue-signaling. A reader writes about D&C’s foolish decision to metaphorically tattoo “kick me” on his forehead:
I have to admit, even knowing better, to being highly disappointed in D&C’s latest futile attempt at virtue-signalling. He’s running another limited Indiegogo campaign as a “charity event” at premium prices, with at least US$10,000 to a charity that he spent several days researching and selecting.
Did he, a US veteran knowing full well how many veterans are in dire straits and in need of help, select Disabled American Veterans or another veterans’ charity. He did not. He chose The Trevor Project, an LGBTQIA+ charity. Seriously. Semper Fi is out; “please accept me, SJWs” is in.
The ComicsGatekeepers are cuckservatives through and through, and are unable and unwilling to conserve a damned thing. Just as you’ve said.
Once you indicate that you are willing to submit to the SJW Narrative, SJWs will never leave you alone until you submit to them entirely. The virtue-signaling tells them that you’re weak and that they only have to increase the pressure until you can’t take it anymore and give in to their demands. That’s one of the reasons they seldom even bother with me anymore. They know that not only will I never accept their idiot Narrative or submit to them, but the VFM and I will go after them harder and faster and from more directions than they even knew were vulnerable.
Jordanetics is gradually losing its hold on people. More and more people are becoming aware that Jordan Peterson is not only a liar, he is a complete lunatic who should be in a padded cell for his own protection. And all that is required to convince them of this is repeatedly quoting Jordan Peterson’s own words from his own speeches and books at length.
I was highly skeptical on your attacks against Peterson for a long while. It took me awhile to come around, but when you’re right you’re right, hat’s off to you.
Same here. After his third or fourth Darkstream about Peterson and a few blog posts. I started realizing that he was correct.
I was hesitant at first to listen to Vox when he started explaining what was really going on. I’d started to become invested in Peterson. But the arguments and examples can’t be ignored. I will not flinch from unpleasant truths. Peterson being a leftist shuck and jive artist with emotional problems is one of those truths.
Vox you called it from the start. I think you were the first person I heard call out Peterson. I could smell something funny, but couldn’t really tell. But you knew it. And called it.
From what Peterson has stated: this is classic SSRI and/or benzodiazapine withdrawal, akethesia, manic psychosis. This buckaroo is having a breakdown, especially if he’s been experimenting with drugs . Bravo Vox for shining light on this fraud with a messiah complex. Someone should section 35 this clown Peterson.
JBP is a complete fruitcake.. You’re 100{e1b6c4ee08d0f44a6a5b11eb06b9139d63cfe72acbaefd7257f78696d447c626} right about him. Thanks for opening my eyes on that topic.
Damn he really is totally crazy! How are people still not seeing it when he is throwing it right out there?
I thought that it was rambling, incoherent, badly written nonsense. I didn’t know it was chock full of sexual deviancy.
The proof Jordan Peterson is crazy is that he is STILL promoting Maps Of Meaning 2 decades after he wrote it.
I’m no Christian, but Day’s critiques of Peterson are accurate.
Okay, so now let me let me point this out: if you have a 25-day stretch of terror and impending doom and you cannot sleep for however long it was – it wasn’t 25 days, we know it wasn’t 25 days, unless of course he has actually transcended the Material Plane like L. Ron Hubbard and is now doing his work beyond the limitations of the human body – if that happens from drinking apple cider there is nothing wrong with your body, there is something wrong with your head! You are simply insane, okay?
This guy is an utter and total lunatic, but just so you understand, this is not new. I’ve been telling you that the guy is insane since I read his Maps of Meaning. Now, because I brought your attention to it, a lot of you are now familiar with the whole Jordan Peterson wants to bang his cousin and dreams about cannibalizing her while the world is ending thing. If you notice, apocalyptic doom is a consistent theme with him. All right, so this is also from Maps of Meaning, and buckle your seat belts because some of you, if you’ve read it, then you know where I’m going with this one. Trust me, if you thought the whole cousin thing was bad, just wait. Please keep in mind that I am reading from Jordan Peterson’s Maps of Meaning.
I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, which was also a river. Her genital region was exposed dimly. It had the appearance of a thick mane of hair. She was stroking herself absentmindedly. She walked over to me with a handful of pubic hair compacted into something resembling a large artist’s paintbrush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm several times to deflect her hand. Finally, unwilling to hurt her or interfere with her any further, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush gently and said, like a child, isn’t it soft?
This guy has serious incest issues. Every time he’s dreaming about his female relatives, it has something to do with sex, and if you put this together with the fact that he was brought in to try to dismiss the idea that there was a official conspiracy to try to conceal some known child molesters in Canada, you know there is something very, very, very hinky going on in the Peterson family.
David Eig Challenge him to a debate. It won’t turn out well for you Vox.
Darkstream by Vox Day I hereby challenge Jordan Peterson to a public written debate, to be published simultaneously on my blog and the site of his choosing.
Now all of the Jordanetics cultists who have been repeatedly telling me that I should challenge him to a debate can go and pester Peterson about debating me. I’m confident they’re all going to get right on that. I’m sure they won’t make any excuses for his failure to accept the challenge.