Tag: #AltRetard

Taking down the Fake Right

On Wednesday, September 6th at 7 PM Eastern, I’m going to be debating Andrew Anglin, the Fake Right phony behind the Daily Stormer, on whether National Socialism is of the ideological Right or Left.

One of the various Anglins had been repeatedly crying about being shut out of the chat when I debated Greg Johnson on the same subject, so, being the kindest of Dark Lords, I graciously decided to give Mr. Anglin the opportunity to do the same. He accepted, despite many of his fans claiming that he was too busy, or too important, to do so.

Tara McCarthy will host and a similar format will be utilized. Since I have already made a public case with which at least one Anglin is familiar, he will have the opportunity to go first.

These Fake Right individuals are nothing more than attention-seekers trying to utilize the Jon Stewart strategy of hiding behind their clownishness whenever they are called out. They erroneously believe their popularity will protect them, and fail to recognize that their much-cherished “brands” are of no interest or importance to those who are only interested in the truth and philosophical coherence.

To paraphrase the man himself, Andrew Anglin is just a crybaby who can’t take the heat. He asked for it and it serves him right. He didn’t understand how the interwebs worked and he paid the price.

Some of the more interesting responses to my offer of a debate. It is more evidence of Vox’s First Law in action. What I find particularly amusing is the way the Swastika Parrots so often regurgitate certain terms in a manner that indicates they have no grasp of what the words they are using actually mean.

Will To Power@ImperivmEvropa
You aren’t even white, faggot. You don’t have a say in our movement. Go shill somewhere else.

American Nationalist@American_Nationalist
My only response is you guys are in for a rude awakening. I’ve tried debating VD anonymously about this exact subject. He responded, came after me hard, and I did better than Greg Johnson, but nowhere near close to victory. Anglin has no chance. None of you guys do.

Clayton Elmy@Cledun
Your retard Glenn Beck political spectrum is the failed branding. No one gives a fuck about that shit but retarded boomers. All the young smart kids who you think you can capture will see through your empty arguments and see ours are superior. They will come to us because the truth belongs to us.

3yrsin@3yrsin
Calling them out, indeed. This should be done any time the political Right gathers in public. Let the Nazis that show up know that they are not, never have been, and never will be part of the Alt-Right (or any part of the American Right). They need to be publicly ridiculed and cast away.

Tom Tomo@Tomo
Lol. Dude, all you do is backstab people on the right.

MrAnonymous@MrAnonymous
Nobody wants to buy you’re cucked book on Amazon. Fuck off and attach yourself to the next big thing and move on.

Skout Icus@Iamscouticus
Yep. @voxday isn’t nearly as sharp as he LARPs, or he’d be more self-aware. Everybody but him sees what a sad lil sack he is- motivated by envy in the SF scene, and here. He whines about John Scalzi, George RR Martin, and Anglin, because they’re all more successful than him.

Niccolo Machiavelli@theprince

I don’t think this is a good idea. It’s just a cerebral version of punching a Nazi.

Fabius Maximus@Fabian_Nazism
WOW You are worse than the enemy. You and all those like you are getting sifted.

Lee Rogers@infostormer
Interesting that this @voxday character posts all sorts of insane ramblings and lies to counter signal @AndrewAnglin and the Daily Stormer right in the midst of today’s Gab controversy. He’s either nuts, intentionally trying to misdirect people’s attention, or both. You pick!

Folk@Folk
Have you tried being a less dissatisfying failure? Maybe the problem isn’t them, if there are so many dissatisfied conservatives for them to market a Fake-Right-That-Wins to. Perhaps the problem is you.

On the Fake Right

Neither neocons nor national socialists are of the ideological Right. Both groups are 100 percent Fake Right and rely upon deceit to try to worm their way into the genuine Right to drum up support on the basis of a few points of commonality because they are defeated left-wing factions.
This is nothing new. I was writing about this in 2004.

“Over a third of the 1920 Munich Manifesto precisely matched goals put forth by the American Democratic party, and that percentage more than doubled if one eliminates the historical aspects of the Nazi platform that simply have no application today.” 
And before that, in 2003, I looked at the ideological spectrum on a party-by-party basis.
The most common error is to postulate a Communist left-wing extreme opposed by an extreme Nazi right wing. Not only does this leave out a substantial body of political and philosophical thought, but the construction falls apart the moment the two socialist ideologies are compared. Any reasonable comparison inevitably forces the confused advocates of such a definition to assert that the spectrum is actually a circle, in which case the terms left and right, much less left-wing and right-wing, are wholly nonsensical.
Nor is the original usage of much utility today, since it represented the fundamental division of the pre-revolutionary French national assembly. Since very few nations feature a monarchy these days, and even fewer political parties espouse positions with regards to the Bourbon kings, this definition is now defunct. And the notion of basing the spectrum on progress, of course, begs the Marxian question. In other words, progress toward what? The worker’s paradise?
To find a stronger foundation for a proper political spectrum, it is necessary to delve into intellectual history. Looking back to ancient Greece, one finds striking similarities between the collectivism of Plato’s Republic and modern leftist thought. And likewise, the close relationship between the Aristotelian regard for the individual, the American Bill of Rights and today’s Libertarian Party is equally hard to escape.
Taking this fundamental dichotomy between the supremacy of the community and the primacy of the individual as a starting point, it becomes relatively easy to determine where an individual or party happens to fall on the political spectrum if communism is accepted as the anchoring point for the extreme left wing. The figure below illustrates where some of the most familiar political philosophies fall upon the spectrum based on an analysis of what I consider to be the ten most significant elements affecting individuals and their relationship to their government, followed by a point-by-point breakdown of how these positions were determined.
The ten issues were: Religious Freedom, Right to Life, Gun Control, State Money Standard, Private Property, Freedom of the Press, National Sovereignty, Standing Army, State Schools, Central State Authority
The totals:
00 COMMUNIST
15 NATIONAL SOCIALIST
36 DEMOCRAT
52 REPUBLICAN
85 LIBERTARIAN
This is conclusive evidence that all National Socialists and all Alt-Reichtards are 100 percent Fake Right. They are not only to the Left of the Republicans, they are observably to the Left of the Democratic Party and the DNC.
Nor is the claim that they are pro-white even remotely convincing. First, the German national socialists killed more white people than anyone but their fellow left-wingers, the Communists. Second, the overwhelming majority of genuine national socialists in the world today are not white at all, they are Asian and Arab. And the Chinese version of national socialism both preceded and survived the German version.

Alt-Retard wants a rematch

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
White Nationalist fantasies notwithstanding, Europeans no more identify as Europeans than white Americans identify as European-Americans.

Brian Ninetails‏ @BrianNinetails
Once a goon always a goon amirite?

Brian Ninetails‏ @BrianNinetails
I’ll make sure we shit on you artistically, you just made the list

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
Bring it on. The last time Alt-Retard tried to bring it, they backed down in 12 hours. The VFM will eat you alive. And facts are facts.

Brian Ninetails‏ @BrianNinetails
Capped

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
No need. I’ll put this right there on my blog and it will stay there. Including the part where your friends beg me to call them off.

We have had a successful ceasefire with the Alt-White for a while now. Apparently it is off as far as this Brian Ninetails is concerned, whoever he is. Because I am kind, you may consider him a snack. The leashes are off. But leave everyone else out of it, until we see which way they decide to jump or if they have the sense to leave him to his fate.

Have fun.

Alt-Retard economics

Having seen and heard a few economically illiterate morons pop up and advocate NATIONAL SOCIALISM as some sort of answer to globalism and free trade, I decided that I would take the five minutes required to demonstrate that national socialism is A) not a coherent economic theory or program, B) not a viable economic system, and C) structurally doomed to fail even faster than the current US system is today.

A) National socialism is not a coherent economic theory.

“The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all.”
– Adolf Hitler

B) National socialism is not a viable economic practice.

USA 6-year budget deficit to revenue, 2010-2016
26.8 percent

National Socialist Germany 6-year budget deficit to revenue, 1933-1939
62.9 percent

C) National Socialism was structurally doomed to fail even faster than the current US system is today.

Both the current US system and the historical Nazi systems were dependent upon credit booms. But the Nazi debt-spending was 135 percent worse than the USA’s insanely profligate ways. The ad hoc National Socialist economics meant that the Nazis either had to surrender to the bankers on whom they had declared metaphorical war or engage in material imperialist war to acquire the resources to pay off their rapidly growing debts.

Anyone who advocates national socialism as an economic solution is either totally ignorant or literally retarded. It is even less credible than libertarianism, free trade, or globalism. Frankly, to call it “retarded” is probably a little too generous.

Of Alt-Right and Alt-Retard

Clearly Greg Johnson and I neglected to discuss one particularly minor strain of the Alt-Right, the Alt-Retard.

Vox Day joins Milo in the dumpster for self-promoting morons hijacking the work of others. #TrashDay #WR #altright

When the flea on the tip of the tail thinks it is wagging the dog, that’s the #AltRetard branch of the #AltRight. The Alt-Retards are so ideologically incoherent and inept that to call them incompetent would be giving them too much credit. Setting aside the fact that they clearly fail to understand my position, they appear to genuinely believe that the ALTernative RIGHT can be national SOCIALIST. Yes, because that’s exactly what all the conservatives and libertarians disgusted with the cuckservatism of the Republican establishment concerning immigration are demanding, more socialism, the return of Alsace-Lorraine, and the invasion of Poland.

The #AltRetard aren’t a viable alternative for the obvious reason that they are not even of the political Right.

Their lack of intelligence can be seen in their decision to declare war on Milo… and now they want to draw the baleful eye of the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil upon themselves as well? So be it. That worked out great for the Hugos, after all.

The ridiculous thing about this is that it’s totally unnecessary to John Birch either Milo or me from the Alt-Retard. Neither Milo nor I ever belonged to it, or claimed to belong to it, and we don’t want anything to do with them, their finger-painting, or their swastika panties. The Alt-Retard is the idiot branch of the Alt-White, which unfortunately does make them part of the Alt-Right despite their ideological incoherency, but then, every village needs its idiot.

The amusingly stupid thing isn’t that the Alt-Retard thinks they can own a #hashtag. Many others have made that mistake before them. What is remarkable is that they think they can defend this nonexistent ownership of the hashtag from known #GGers while simultaneously being terrified of cooption. Because, as anyone who has read SJWAL knows, #GamerGate refined the art of taking over enemy #hashtags.

We tried? Darlings, we haven’t even begun to try. We hadn’t even thought about trying until you just couldn’t leave us alone. You’ll know we’ve at least put in a modicum of effort when you’re falling all over yourselves desperately trying to escape the labels we have applied to you. In the meantime, this comment on Gab cracked me up.

Prometheus Bound @Deucalion
@voxday Can you go one month without getting “purged” from something?

Apparently not. Anyhow, VFM on Gab and Twitter, you now know the correct hashtag for these losers. They want to babble about branding, well, they’ve just been branded. A Gab response from /pol/:


ULTRAHARDCORE@ULTRAHARDCORE
While I do still think some concern about co-option of the #AltRight is valid, especially with Milo given his modicum of fame and his connections with Breitbart, I have to say @voxday’s labeling certain elements as #AltRetard is not only funny but apt as well.