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This is an email from a British reader who wants to put the situation in perspective for non-British readers. And remember, the British mainstream media is every bit as unreliable when it comes to reporting the truth as the US mainstream media.

Anyone thinking that we’re inconsistent, or giving up, or will ever give up, is kidding themselves.

We would have been out of the EU a decade ago, but Blair and Cameron broke the principle of candidate selection by local party management, and imposed shortlists of approved candidates from the central party offices. This was an attempt to prevent infighting and create a consistent message to make the parties electable after the disasters of the Foot and Kinnock election attempts in the 80’s and 90’s (Labour Party), and Hague, Duncan-Smith and Howard in the 00’s (Conservative Party). The Burkean ideal was shattered by this and therefore the MPs simply do not even reflect the views of the ordinary party members of the Labour Party or the Conservative Party, let alone then ordinary voters. This is why there is a huge disconnect between the referendum result and the views in Westminster.

However, the EU issue, which had resulted in the defenestration of Thatcher to enable the Maastricht Treaty, simply wouldn’t go away – precisely because there was such an establishment consensus on staying in the EU. The party leaders on both sides took the view that they could ignore it because, “where else are our voters going to go?” Well, eventually, after trying almost every other option first to make the traditional Burkean arrangement work, the voters decided to go elsewhere.

May 2014: We voted UKIP as the largest party in the EU elections. Cameron realised the Tories were toast in the general election unless he offered the UKIP voters a reason to return. (Kippers are 2/3 Conservative and 1/3 Labour.) He thought he could promise a referendum and then bargain it away in negotiations with the Liberal Democrats.

May 2015: We voted Cameron a majority so that he couldn’t bargain away the manifesto commitment to an EU referendum. The Remain campaign’s pollsters told them they were going to lose at the start of the campaign by 52-48: “You do have a positive case for staying in the EU, don’t you?”, “Err… no.” Seriously, that’s what the pollster said they replied when he asked them!

June 2016: We voted to leave, by… exactly what was predicted the previous year. The EU is like Hillary – everyone’s opinion was already formed, and publicity campaigns were never going to change anyone’s mind.

June 2017: Theresa May wanted a huge majority, and projections were that she would have had easily enough Conservatives to win last night’s vote. But she got arrogant and blew it by stepping on the 3rd rail of British politics: The Alzheimer’s Tax, as it was dubbed. She demonstrated she couldn’t be trusted and so we ensured that she was hamstrung; precisely to achieve exactly the result of last night.

Of course Brexit was always going to be this way. It was always going to be trench warfare to get out. It was obvious from the EU’s negotiating position on 28 March 2017, the day before Article 50, that there could never be an agreement with the EU. We could never accept those terms. Even if the quisling politicians accepted them, we would simply repudiate them later using the 1970 Treaty of Vienna.

The EU seems to persistently operate under the fantasy that any British government can make commitments about the future. It can’t. The most fundamental principle of the British constitution is that no parliament may bind a future parliament. The EU keeps want us to be bound to unchanging commitments, which is an axiomatic impossibility, because we would later unbind ourselves.

On the matter of EU citizens saying that they don’t trust the British government in the future, well “Why are you even here if you don’t trust us? Because you are indeed talking about a future government that the British would choose.” The EU citizens are a bit like the Brits that move to the USA, and can’t cope with the fact that they do things differently there. We’re not Europe. We have a common law system with fundamentally different concepts of law and the relationship between the citizen and the state. And we drive on the correct side of the road.

If there is another referendum, we’ll vote to get out of the EU in exactly the same numbers. Channel 4 News presenter Jon Snow went to Leeds to interview 18-20 year olds who hadn’t voted in 2016, and was astonished to discover they were more adamant about Brexit than the older voters. It is always a false conceit of the left that they are the future, which I guess is why they are now run the world over by a gerontocracy that looks like the Chernenko regime overseeing the May Day parade, such as Pelosi and Corbyn.

Theresa May won’t authorise another referendum. It would open the door to referendums on other topics the progressives want to avoid. How about a referendum on the death penalty, abortion, abolition of the concept of asylum, or any other deplorable topic? How about another Scottish referendum? Sturgeon certainly wants it. That could open the way to an English independence referendum. The Welsh are terrified of that idea. How about a 3rd Brexit referendum? There isn’t going to be another referendum on anything, ever, if the establishment can prevent it.

Even if they manage to stop Brexit for the moment, it will remain the central issue of British politics until we are out of the EU. Nothing else is getting done in government. Brexit occupies 100 percent of government CPU capacity. They can’t wish Brexit away, much as they would like to. If this attempt to leave is stopped, then the electorate will do precisely what Cameron was trying to prevent and abandon the two main parties in order to achieve Brexit.

A prospect that I think would be really hilarious is if we are prevented from leaving, and then a Salvini-Orban grouping takes control of the EU parliament and selection of Junker’s replacement. There will be new commissioners nominated by the governments that have taken power since 2014. I can see British Remain supporters suddenly horrified: “We didn’t mean to stay in THIS EU, we meant to stay in the Merkel-Macron version!”

On a grander level, this is like the 1945 C.S. Lewis novel That Hideous Strength where Britain is covertly conquered by an apparently benign European bureaucracy. But the fact is that the problems are really caused by the Franco-German addiction to empire building on the European continent. We only went to war against Napoleon, the Kaiser, and Hitler because they went empire building in Europe, not because of any unpleasant domestic activities they may have engaged in. Establishing the empire peacefully is still an empire and people are still going to resist. Nationalism is sticking within your own borders. It is the Westphalian solution. It stopped the Thirty Years war. It is the path to peace, stability and prosperity.

Because the first 12 obviously don’t work very well. FU emails to let us know that Jordan Peterson has announced his next book:

I’m also working on my new book a lot actually, it’s tentatively titled: “Order twelve more rules for life”, or perhaps “beyond mere order”. I haven’t decided on that yet. I can tell you what the rules are, maybe you would be interested in that. So I’ll give you a list of them.

The first one is: Do not carelessly degenerate social institutions or creative achievement.
Rule two: Imagine who you could be, and then aim single mindedly at that.
Rule three: Work as hard as you can, work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing, and see what happens.
Rule four: Do not hide unwanted things in the fog.
Rule five: Abandon ideology. Abandon ideology.
Rule six: Notice that opportunity lurks where responsibility have been abdicated.
Rule seven: Do not do things that you hate.
Rule eight: Try to make one room in your house as beautiful as possible.
Rule nine: If old memory make you cry, write them down carefully and completely.
Rule ten: Plan and work diligently to maintain the romance in your relationship.
Rule eleven: Be grateful in spite of your suffering.
Rule twelve: Do not allow yourself to become resentful, deceitful or arrogant.

In principle that book will be published in January 2020. So and I am supposed to have the manuscript in sometime within the next six months and I have a first draft done and I’m working hard on the repeated edits. It’s gonna be published simultaneously in the UK and the US and Canada. I’m working with three different editors. And so, that’s that part of the announcement. And so I’m hoping, I’m really hoping that I can make the next book better. It will be a pair, it will be a paired copy with the first one. I’m probably gonna publish it with a black cover to go with the white cover of twelve rules and I’m hoping that I can make it into a better book and that the two together will make a very compete set, so that’s the plan. We will see how it goes.

It will be interesting to see if these rules are actually what they appear to be or if, like the first 12 rules, they are merely vehicles for deeper esoteric principles. Based on what he’s saying, I would assume the former, but we will see.

It’s a good thing A Sea of Skulls will be done and out by then….

This is one of the reasons I needed to be heavily encouraged to move into video. I knew the average IQ of the video commenters was going to be at least a standard deviation below the blog commenters, but it’s still painful to encounter and endure the retardery. I thought Gamma midwits were bad, but the average-IQ variants are arguably even worse:

EhudofGera3
This is the second video of you I have seen. I’ve watched all the IDW, Owen Benjamin pointed me here, your so longwinded and have a poor presentation. What you’re saying may or may not be true, but the delivery needs work.

Darkstream
Your grammar and punctuation both require improvement.

Jakob Algeblad
Darkstream You seem too be a great man, responding to a respectful comment with insults…

Darkstream
Your spelling requires improvement.

Now that I better understand them, I really, truly, and sincerely hate gammas. If you’re a gamma reading this, please understand that offering unsolicited advice and criticism is something that you should never, ever, do. That habit is one of the primary reasons that people not only don’t like you, but actively avoid your company. If you want to be more popular, then excise the words “should”, “need”, and “seem” from your vocabulary. Never, ever, use them.

Try telling this unemployed military veteran that immigration and work visas are “good for the economy”:

Here’s a quick rundown of what happened to me. I can’t qualify for a job requiring zero years experience.  We’re being replaced.

• 6-year USAF veteran. Honorably discharged in 2011.
• Start new career in energy in 2011. Shit hits the fan with oil prices and get laid off in 2016.
• No problem, chin up, go back to school and finish economics degree. Graduate early 2018.
• Apply to job at Hewlett Packard. Wait patiently for response and vigorously apply elsewhere.
• Get rejected for a job requiring ZERO years experience. WTF-F-F-F?
• Check out H1B search position and company. HP has hired 4 people on H1B for the same job.
• I was replaced in my own country. The country that I served.

The war is coming home. If America’s soldiers can’t find work, then no one should be surprised if they begin to utilize the skills they learned in the military against their real enemy, the one that is actually attacking them, their families, and their way of life.

Jerry Pournelle was right. There will be war.

I was sent this by a Canadian gentleman this morning. A selection from his email:

After graduating from Fairview High (1979) Jordan studied Poli-Sci at Grande Prairie Regional College for two years before transferring to the University of Alberta (Edmonton) where he earned a BA (1982). Low grades and a poor LSAT score torpedoed foundational dreams of a legal career; leaving Jordan despondent.

Jordan stayed at U of A; defaulting his major to what was then Canada’s academic catch-basin, Psychology. Transferring credits and completing requisite courses fetched a second BA (Psych) in 1984.

From 1985 to 1991 Jordan studied at Montreal’s McGill University. After getting his Ph.D. he haunted McGill’s halls for three additional years as a Post-Doc before being rescued by a professors’ assistant posting at Harvard. Four years later he landed a teaching professorship at U of Toronto. Despite fictionalised autobiographical accounts of a varied, storied career; Jordy’s a schoolie.

Even his masthead boast about being a Clinical Psychologist is largely bogus. His clinical (private practice) work was a minor sideline. In Map of Meaning (1999) he bemoans his lack of clinical experience. Since then teaching paid the bills. Sorties into the media, writing, and a self-help publishing venture left little room for private practice. When his celebrity career took off he abandoned his few clients.

Peterson’s grooming by state broadcasters began in 2004 when TV Ontario produced a 13-part series based on Map of Meaning. Viewers tuned-out in droves. Following his UN gig in 2012-13, Peterson began uploading his lectures onto YouTube; attracting scant attention. Then a miracle…

On September 27, 2016 Jordan posted the video: “Professor against political correctness.” Within 24 hours, Canada’s main newspaper chain’s flagship, National Post, ran an article plugging the video. Two days later “As it Happens” – Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s weekday evening radio show (1.6 million weekly listeners) – interviewed Peterson, again plugging the video. CBC re-ran this show online titled “I’m not a bigot” accompanied by a flattering photo of Peterson. 

While billed as a populist Internet sensation, Peterson is, in fact, a mainstream media balloon. Even his Internet success was amped.  In December 2016 Peterson began podcasting. Weeks later he hired a team to record his class-room lectures. These were edited and disbursed across the web. Then YouTube’s gnomes went to work. Peterson’s mug-shot became ubiquitous in YouTube’s spontaneous suggestion columns. Persons not remotely interested in Peterson were persistently shunted to an array of cookie-cutter YouTube sites that exist solely to publicise chosen e-celebs. Comments sections of Peterson’s scatterbrained lecture videos contain numerous complaints of “click-bait.”

It would be interesting to know if the Canadian LSAT was also an IQ proxy, as this would prove that Peterson has been exaggerating his IQ. There are already some anomalies in his self-description of it; the fact that such an ambitious individual first attended a regional college also tends to suggest that his test scores were less than superlative.

You can see exactly how trivial a figure Jordan Peterson was prior to October 2016 from this Google Trends comparison from 2011 through the end of September 2016. Keep in mind that this chart begins more than 7 years after a 13-part televised series dedicated to Peterson’s first book.

UPDATE: If it is true that Peterson applied to law school but did not get in, then he is lying about his supposedly high level of intelligence. From the Canadian Mensa site concerning prior evidence it accepts of a 98th percentile IQ.

LSAT Prior to 1982: 662. Effective 1982 (total percentile rank): 95. The average LSAT accepted by the University of Alberta Faculty of Law is the 90th percentile. In current terms, the 90th percentile is a score of 164, which equates to an estimated IQ of 124. That is the ceiling on Jordan Peterson’s IQ.

UPDATE: Jordan Peterson’s IQ claim:

I don’t know what my IQ is. I had it tested at one point. It’s in excess of a hundred and fifty but I don’t know exactly where it lands now…. I’m not overwhelmingly intelligent from a quantitative perspective, you know. I think my GRE scores for on the quantitative end of things for about 70-75th percentile which isn’t too bad given that you know you’re competing against other people who are going into graduate school, but there’s a big
difference between 75th percentile and 99th percentile, and I think that’s where
it was verbally, something like that.

Now remember, Jordan Peterson is a habitual liar. Also note that if we put together the 75th percentile and 99th percentile on the GRE that he claims would indicate that he is at the 87th percentile combined. We can see that Mensa equates the 95th percentile on the GRE with the 98th IQ percentile, so adjusting for the difference in populations would move him up to the 90th percentile, or an IQ of 120, which fits right beneath his estimated IQ ceiling of 124.

UPDATE: Boom. Got him. I cannot believe I missed this! From Maps of Meaning.

I wanted to become a corporate lawyer—had written the Law School Admissions Test, had taken two years of appropriate preliminary courses. I wanted to learn the ways of my enemies, and embark on a political career. This plan disintegrated. The world obviously did not need another lawyer, and I no longer believed that I knew enough to masquerade as a leader.

So, he did take the LSAT, he does know his IQ, and now, so do we. Looks like we’ll be adding Appendix D to JORDANETICS next week. Needless to say, I’ll be doing a Darkstream on the subject tonight.

JC has a Christmas request:

You mentioned Taleb is one of the few people that would make you question things you previously held. Taleb’s math is out of my league but it’s the same way I feel about your blog posts, i.e. they make me really think about my previously held beliefs. Could you maybe address his IQ thread in your blog or on the Darkstream one of these days?

Knowing my respect for the acumen of NN Taleb, a number of people have emailed me concerning his recent thread criticizing the idea of IQ and its utility in providing a reasonable proxy for comparing intelligence between individuals. I love Taleb’s books, I admire his pugnacious spirit, and I do not dismiss anything he says out of hand. However, no matter how much I respect anyone, I do not accept anyone as an authority who cannot be questioned. I have questioned and critiqued most of my intellectual heroes, from Umberto Eco to Thomas Aquinas and Marcus Aurelius, so I won’t hesitate to point out the various errors in fact and logic that Taleb makes in his “IQ” Thread.

“IQ” THREAD

“IQ” measures an inferior form of intelligence, stripped of 2nd order effects, meant to select paper shufflers, obedient IYIs.

1- When someone asks you a question in REAL LIFE, you focus first on “WHY is he asking me that?”, which slows down. (Fat Tony vs Dr John)

2- It takes a certain type of person to waste intelligent concentration on classroom/academic problems. These are lifeless bureaucrats who can muster sterile motivation.

Some people can only focus on problems that are REAL, not fictional textbook ones.

3- Look at the hordes with “high IQ” (from measurement) who are failures in real world rather than the ~50{d8b4b03f7cd10021bc48a627e8e1f7f3430c71153efff7ea4a5b1b0e3fb64988} correlation between IQ and success in 1) salaried employment, 2) jobs that select for edjukashion.

Yuuge survivorship bias.

37 out of 38 PhDs in finance blew up in 1998!

4- If many millionaires have IQs around100, & 58 y.o. back office clercs at Goldman Sachs or elsewhere an IQ of 155 (true example), clearly the measurement is less informative than claimed.

5- If you renamed IQ , from “Intelligent Quotient” to FQ “Functionary Quotient” or SQ “Salaryperson Quotient”, then some of the stuff will be true.

It measures best the ability to be a good slave.

IYIs want to build a top-down world where IYIs have the edge.

6- If you take a Popperian-Hayekian view on intelligence, then you would realize that to measure it you would need to know the SKILLS needed in the ecology, which is again a fallacy of intellectual hubris.

7- Perhaps the worst problem with IQ is that it seem to selects for people who don’t like to say “there is no answer, don’t waste time, find something else”.

Remember the 1998 blowups.

8- IQ is an academic-contrived notion.

And the problem is that in academia there is no difference between academia and the real world; in the real world there is.

Which explains why @primalpoly (while an honest resesrcher) can’t see where we are coming from.

9- It is PRECISELY as a quant that I doubt “IQ”.
I’ve spent 34 years working w/”High IQ” quants. I’ve rarely seen them survive, not blow up on tail events.

Those high IQ who have survived like @financequant /Renaissance happen to be yuuugely street smart

10- #SkininTheGame shows that the only robust measure of “rationality” & “intelligence” is survival, avoidance of ruin/left tail/absorbing barrier, (ergodicity). Nothing that does not account for ability to survive counts as a measure of “intelligence”– just philosophaster BS.

11- A robust use of “IQ” is for low scores for special needs pple. But then practically ANY measure would work to detect problem & improvement.

Or no measure: just a conversation #Lindy. But then psycholophasters are using it like cholesterol, transferring from tails to body.

12- If someone came up w/a NUMERICAL “Well Being Quotient” WBQ or “Sleep Quotient”, SQ, trying to mimic temperature or oth physical qty,  you ‘d find it absurd.
But put enough academics w/physics envy on it & it will become an official measure.

That’s what happened to “IQ”.

13- For a measure to be a measure it needs to be:

+ UNIQUE
+ MONOTONIC
or, at least
+ TRANSITIVE

Hence IQ is not a measure, but something for psycholophasters to BS about.

14- Any measure of “intelligence” w/o convexity is sterile.

https://www.edge.org/conversation/nassim_nicholas_taleb-understanding-is-a-poor-substitute-for-convexity-antifragility …

15-” IQ” is most predictive of performance in military training, w/correlation~.5, (which is circular since hiring isn’t random).

QUIZ: translate the correlation into percentage of the time IQ provides a correct answer there.

16- So Far: “IQ” isn’t a measure of “intelligence” but “unintelligence”; it loses its precision as you move away from 70 (left tail).

Where it’s most hyped (*some* jobs) it predicts ~15- 63{d8b4b03f7cd10021bc48a627e8e1f7f3430c71153efff7ea4a5b1b0e3fb64988} of the time, ~10{d8b4b03f7cd10021bc48a627e8e1f7f3430c71153efff7ea4a5b1b0e3fb64988} if you demassage data.

It it were a physical test, wd be rejected.

17- A graph that shows the synthesis of my opinion on IQ and the “reseasrch” results about it.

18- (continuing graph). So far none of the IQ-psycholophasters seem to grasp that local correlation is never correlation is the commonly understood sense. So when they say  “IQ works well between 70 and 130” it means: “IQ works well between 0 and ~85, maybe”.

19- A general problem w/social “scientists” & IQ idiots: they can intuit the very terms they are using.
Verbalism; they have a skin-deep statistical education & can’t translate something as trivial as “correlation” or “explained variance” into meaning, esp. under nonlinearities.

20- This Tweet storm has NO psychological references: simply, the field is bust. So far ~ 50{d8b4b03f7cd10021bc48a627e8e1f7f3430c71153efff7ea4a5b1b0e3fb64988} of the research DOES NOT replicate, & papers that do have weaker effect. Not counting poor transfer to reality.

How P values often fraudulent:https://arxiv.org/pdf/1603.07532.pdf …
Same for g factor

21-If you look at my p-haking above all the numbers by the fellow are upper bound -add category selection & the story is grim. Discount the story by >½.

“If IQ isn’t a valid concept, no concept in psychology is valid.” Sorry but psychology is largely bust.

22- This tweet storm irritated many:

1) Charlatans with something to sell: without IQ & other *testing* psychologists have little to sell society; there is a vested interest in hacking/massaging the stats & defending the products.

2) Pple who want some races to be inferior.

23- Note 1: Why is Intelligence = (long term) survival? Because convexity, missed by IQ tests. You want to make those mistakes with small consequences  NOT those with large ones. Academics ~ always focus on frequency of error not magnitude. Too Gaussianized. See #antifragile

First, while IQ may measure an inferior form of intelligence, Taleb’s apparent unfamiliarity with the statistically observed exclusion of the high-IQ cognitive elite means that he finds himself in error from the very start. Whether it was designed to do so or not, IQ observably does not select for “paper shufflers, obedient IYIs” as those who can best be described in that manner tend to be in 1SD to 2SD range. In fact, those in the 150+ range are 97 percent EXCLUDED from the elite professions, including academia, often due to their inveterate intellectual disobedience.

One study even found that the highest IQ among the academics measured at an elite English university was only 139! The fact that IQ proxy tests have not been utilized in the US college admissions process for nearly 30 years now only further obscures the severing of the link between academia and high intelligence.

Second, while it does take “a certain type of person to waste intelligent concentration on classroom/academic problems” those don’t tend to be the 3SD+ set. They tend to focus on ABSTRACT problems, because they are the only people capable of, and interested in, doing so. It is the midwits from the 105 to 115 level who prefer spitting out correct answers to questions already answered.

Third, Taleb fails to understand the reason for the correlation between high IQ and failure in the real world, which stems from the communications gap. The correlation between IQ and academic success is only 50 percent for IQs below 140; the rate of real world success for 150+ IQs is higher in the real world than in the academic world. Taleb is looking at too broad a range of “high IQ” rather than at a reasonable gradient of high IQ ranges.

Fourth, Taleb conflates intelligence with survival. But this is just flat-out wrong. Intelligence is simply a measure of intellectual ability, just as size, strength, and speed are measures of physical ability. And while intellectual ability is not necessarily as easily quantified, and while IQ is assuredly not a perfect measure, it is no more correct to redefine it simply because some people with lower IQs have higher incomes than other people with higher IQs than it would be correct to redefine size because some short people have higher incomes than taller people.

The fact that a track sprinter’s speed does not always translate to success on the football field, where speed is at a premium, does not mean that the sprinter is not fast. It merely means that there are other, more important factors involved that are less immediately apparent to the casual observer. And given the way in which the most intelligent women are disinclined to reproduce, it should be obvious that intelligence is no more intrinsically advantageous to survival than size.

In this failed critique of IQ, Taleb demonstrates the limitations of the technical mind, which I suspect in this case stems from Taleb’s understandable irritation with the shortcomings of the quantifiers used to determine IQ. A better measure would take into account more objectively quantifiable measures such the as speed of accurate reading, and place more importance on the ability to correctly perform logical and mathematical tasks quickly. But Taleb’s critique primarily fails due to his false assumptions concerning the correlation of academic success with IQ, which is surprising considering that Taleb probably knows more 1SD to 3SD academics than anyone reading this.

AP wonders if transtemporal quantum editing could be considered one of the great wonders anticipated by the Bible:

Just came home from work to catch the Darkstream and your references to possible trans-temporal manipulation. Never thought about it before, but it’s a hella scary idea. Puts me in mind of an incredibly powerful lie scripture predicts:

“For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.”

The real elect know our stuff, historically and currently. Not bragging, but just recognizing the Spirit was given to guide us into all truth. And he does his job. But with all the time I’ve spent reading the word of God, if something could make me question almost anything, it would be a completely unexpected, entirely unprecedented new level of manipulation; the sort of magic trick that makes the serious, committed believer in Jesus Christ actually wonder if he is losing his own mind. His memories are suspect. His intellect is breached. His spirit is … well, who knows?

When you find yourself questioning not just the validity of the input but the very operation of the machine God himself built, you’re really in trouble.

Which makes me think what you’re suggesting is not out of the question. The really bad stuff the apostle John predicted is absolutely coming, and maybe some of it’s already here. I appreciate being pushed to consider such things, because we need to guard against attacks from every conceivable—and inconceivable—direction.

I don’t find the idea to be scary, but rather, yet another reassuring confirmation that the divine victory has already been won, the very victory whose initial offensive we celebrate tomorrow. Christians have been prepared for over a century for a battle between what our eyes see and what our hearts know. That is why the Christian must be dedicated to the truth, seek knowledge, and pray for discernment.

I always found it intriguing that one of the strongest scriptural condemnations was targeted for those who modify the words of the Bible. Perhaps that was a warning for the very modifications that are being observed and reported now.

I don’t pretend to be a theologian or to have memorized verses from the King James Version. But do you really believe my knowledge of the latter is so poor that I would score a pathetic 1 out of 20 on a fill-in-the-blank Bible quiz?

PC has read Jordanetics and he is concerned about recent developments in cultsville:

I have just read your paragraph in Jordanetics:

“There are a number of signs that will alert us if Jordanetics begins to transform into a full-blown religious cult. For example, if Peterson’s followers … start founding institutions for the study and propagation of the 12-Rule Path” 

I found this quite chilling, as a mere week ago, and very shortly after the book was released, such an institution appears to have been founded. There is also the typical (and creepy) All-Seeing-Eye symbolism on their website, and a very messianic image of Peterson.

Yeah, that’s really not a good sign.

Now Mike Cernovich has seen through the evil, cowardly charlatan. It’s only a matter of time before everyone who hasn’t already drunk the Kool-Aid does. Read Jordanetics if you want to get up to speed fast. I sent Mike a copy, so he’ll be well-equipped to deal with the attack of the Low-Status Lobster Cult.

Mike Cernovich
Jordan Peterson is a coward. That’s not a beef. It’s my assessment of his behavior. Remember when he said Kavanaugh should resign. And now he won’t stand with Carl / Sargon in any firm way.

Mike Cernovich
Jordan Peterson won’t debate adults (only college kids), said Kavanaugh should resign, and won’t stand firm with Sargon / Carl. He’s a coward.  And none of his followers can defend his cowardice, so they lash out.

Mike Cernovich
He has shown himself to be a coward, first by suggesting that Kavanaugh resign, and now by refusing to stand with his friend Carl / Sargon. So yes he’s a liar. He preaches courage while failing to live it – the tale of all religious hucksters.

Mike Cernovich
One area of study @jordanbpeterson might be interested in – What happens when people in your position refuse to take a firm stand? I would encourage you to read some essays by Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

KE can’t understand why I despise Jordan Peterson and is upset that I was so indelicate as to observe that Jordan Peterson’s wife is attractionally challenged:

I don’t understand why you see fit to judge Jordan, when he is causing a large number of individuals to enter the realm of religious thinking. Do you think none of Jordan’s following will end up growing past him? He isn’t a cult leader. The mirroring and unwillingness to put forward concrete facts is due to his humility and goal of teaching people to think through concepts themselves, with the freely given admission that he doesn’t know everything. He always gives disclaimers when he’s not an expert. You don’t know the future, and you cannot make final judgement on what Jordan is doing, and whether his sins are wholly outweighed by his virtues. You are neither God nor Jesus Vox, you have fallen so low as to attack a man’s wife because of your own insecurity and resentment. It makes me so sad because I genuinely love you. Please reconcile. Outlove Jordan instead of this hateful sneering or you will live to regret it.

I responded to KE with all the restraint and gentle humility for which I am so rightly known:

Satan worship is in the realm of religious thinking, you moron. Do you think it would be desirable for him to convince young atheists to start cutting out hearts and offering them to Huitzilopochtli? Jordan Peterson is one part Tony Robbins, one part L. Ron Hubbard, and one part Aleister Crowley. He’s a exceptionally dishonest, very evil man. He even admits as much!

It’s hardly my fault that Jordan Peterson’s wife is unattractive. I’m not her plastic surgeon. I didn’t make him marry her. And my pointing out a readily observable fact is an absolutely relevant response to the ridiculous accusations that I am even remotely “jealous” or “envious” of the man. No wonder he’s always out on tour. And on anti-depressants.

Now, if you would simply read Jordanetics, you would understand why I am so openly contemptuous of the wicked charlatan.

Of course, being a gamma, KE couldn’t just leave it at that.

I’m sorry that you feel unappreciated Vox, you should know that what you do, despite your comparative lack of recognition is just as meaningful and worthwhile as what Jordan does. Maybe one day you’ll be as well known as he is today, but reacting so angrily will only serve to diminish that possibility.

I’m not angry. Nor do I feel unappreciated. Why don’t you stop trying to hurt people’s feelings like a woman and try dealing with reality instead? Jordan Peterson is an evil fraud. You’re going to feel very, very stupid when you finally figure it out.

Now try to stop being such an annoying little gamma male. This sort of nonsense is precisely why people don’t like you.

Readers are using the bestselling Jordanetics to deprogram the lobster cultists:

Just wanted to say thanks for your work on Jordanetics. I loved the book and hope to convince my lobster cultist [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] to read it before the end of the year. I think they are a bit afraid to. My [REDACTED] is pretty ashamed that he was a big Sam Harris fan before I pushed him to reconsider.

I spoke to [REDACTED] and was surprised to hear her reaction to Milo’s forward. Like so many others, she claimed it came off as envious and unpersuasive. She said it sounded like the bitter response of someone who didn’t know how to walk the line of acceptable discourse attacking someone who does. Myself and another friend (who likes Peterson) asked her how that explains Peterson objective, documented betrayal of Milo. If Peterson is merely trying to walk that fine line, does that justify lying to his audience and his “friends”?

Ha, well, as I was writing this [REDACTED] texted me saying she was wrong about Peterson. She just read your bit about his involvement with UN and said “fuck that guy.” You made a very strong case, and it’s clearly getting through.

The reader is, of course, very welcome. I’m pleased to see how effective the one-two combination of Milo’s very personal Foreword followed by my dispassionate approach has succeeded in penetrating the meandering fog of meaning with which Jordan Peterson hides his true objectives and philosophy. I’m even more encouraged to hear that Peterson fans are nervous about reading the book, as that indicates they are already beginning to have their doubts about him.

An erstwhile gung-ho Peterson fan posts an important review:

As a former Jordan Peterson fan myself, I initially dismissed many people’s criticisms of the man, Vox Day included. I didn’t think JBP was the savior of mankind or even remotely Christian…just a man who stood up to SJWs and the thought police and wanted to help young wayward millennials.

However after really listening to VD’s arguments and looking into JBP’s content in his books, I cannot in good conscience, especially as a Christian, support Peterson anymore. This book is extremely thorough and meticulous in going through each and every rule in his 12-rule set and shows the bait-and-switch for each one—with each rule building up JBP’s philosophy that can be correctly identified as anti-Christian along the lines of Aleister Crowley and WB Yeats.

This isn’t about jealousy, envy, unfounded hatred, etc. about the man. There is a lot about Peterson himself that is more to be pitied than yearned for.

I urge everyone, especially those who were gung-ho about the Lobster Man like I was, to put aside the strong proclivity to protect him for just a second and read this book. It makes a very strong case that JBP isn’t just a charlatan talking about the psychological landscape, but rather a a sort of gnostic spiritualist talking about creating a religion as the successor to Christianity with him as the self-appointed prophet.

You simply cannot rely upon a deceiver to tell you the truth. And Jordan Peterson, first and foremost, is a shameless deceiver. The great thing about the publication of Jordanetics is that the genie is now out of the bottle and on the hunt. The Lobster Pope may have his tour, his ecstatic fan base, the media, CAA, the United Nations, and the Trilateral Commission all supporting him, but he is now in a race with the inexorable truth. It will run him down, sooner or later, and he knows it.

UPDATE: Soon….